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Светильники Savoy House Europe Terrell

...светильники savoy house europe terrell, 3шт. люстра 7p-7216-3-sn / 3x e27 - 60w, люстра 1p-7210-5-sn / 5x e27 -...

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Housing for 3x buck converters for Raspi and fan supply on 3D printer by HD_Creator

... of the mounting rail. this problem is already fixed in the uploaded thing, the ears are covering the full height of the housing.

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12v car socket housing for 3 plugs by maddash1337

...by maddash1337 thingiverse created for my camper van a 3x 12v socket to plugin the fridge and phone...

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Fixtures Savoy House Europe Terrell

...fixtures savoy house europe terrell, 3pc. chandelier 7p-7216-3-sn / 3x e27 - 60w, chandelier 1p-7210-5-sn / 5x e27 -...

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RoomOwl-TTGO-Case by Lolocopte

...with a bme680 and battery pack. you will need 3x m3 6mm screws to screw the cover onto the...

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Snaptics Power Module by zaz00

...module of the snaptics platform. this module houses a 3x aa battery pack to provide power to the actuators...

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Housing Ramps Arduino by MrMuschelschrupper

...screws und nut or 2 screws with wide tread 3x ...

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Illuminated Flowers by uvwxy

...the vase/box is more ore less improvised to contain 3x aaa 1.2v rechargable batteries to power the leds. see...

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Renkforce RF100 Power supply switch case for heater and nozzle cooler by Pistorio

...input and two switchable outputs. i used standard components: 3x 2.1mm power sockets 2x switch it is a little...

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Replacement Shower-head mount for our Hillbilly shower by smysnk

...fix for it. parts for installation: 2x m3 screws 3x drywall screws 1x 27mm...

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Amiga 3000 Mini (Raspberry Pi 2+3)

...plate 1x 20-pin angled pin-header 1x 2-pin fan socket 3x led (red, yellow, green) 3x smd resistors 1x fan...

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Amiga 3000 Mini (Raspberry Pi 4)

...plate 1x 20-pin angled pin-header 1x 2-pin fan socket 3x led (red, yellow, green) 3x smd resistors 1x fan...

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Adjustable Projector Mount for Optoma GT1080 by shadowtag

...mattress. in addition to the printed parts, you'll need 3x m4 x ~16mm cap screws, 3x 5/16-18 x 1.25"...

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Anycubic Plus HDD Bearing Top Spool Holder by streamarcanine

...and bolts. the support brakets are ajustable and uses m3x4mm (6x) screws to mount to the main...

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Ender 3 / Hiprecy Leo 1s 3D Printer Housing by Chrizlebaer

...will follow. you need on top the following parts: 3x ikea table 55x55 4x plexiglas 500mm x 445mm x...

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Ender 3 PSU Mount

...or longer (for me two screws provide sufficient strength) 3x m4 14mm (exact length) 3x m4 washers (optional) you...

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Adjustable Raspberry Pi Camera Mount for Ender 3 by 3DQue

...it prints. required hardware: for bracket and arm assembly: 3x m3x12 screws (12 mm length or slightly less, to...

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Led Stripe Holder for Petsfang Ender3/CR-10 by Slizz89

...without the "p" logo from "dpetsel". print the spacer 3x and bring them behind the led-stripe to make sure...

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Geeetech G2S enclosure by techwit

...using the vertical smooth rod screws. need to print 3x bottom plates (one for each corner) 3x top plates...

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Jet Engine - working compressed air turbofan by rndmframes_printing

...housing3 1x housing4 2x injectorring 2x stator 4x injector1 3x injector2 3x injector3 (goes with injector2) 1x injector4 1x...

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Kedu KJD12 NVR Switch Faceplate by danr_uk

...needs. i attached the switch to the faceplate with 3x m3 screws and...

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Plumb Bob by rockpaperlizardspock

...house guests with your supernatural powers of persuasion. requires: 3x m3 10mm long screws 1x long piece of string...

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Nema 17 planetary gear 3:1 by bartoaster

...1 x 604 bearing 2 x 608 bearing 3x m3x0mm screw 3m m3 nut 8x m2x7mm screw you will...

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3S Li-Ion Pack - FPV Googles - 21700 cells by chrisvk

...wear it on a belt or trousers. add. parts 3x m3 screws 20mm 3s balancer xt (what ever you...

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tricopter drone arm by shlongus

...amazon ) 1x kk2 flight controller 1x rx9 receiver 3x 1400kv outrunner motors ( 28mm in diameter ) 3x...

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Joystick Gamepad Retro Arcade for PC (USB-C) and C64 / C128 / Amiga Projekt Joyweiler by Schlumpf999

...screw m2x5 4x allen screw m3x6 6x allen screw m3x2 in contrast to the parts list, i used this...

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Energiermeter-ESP8266-PZEM by itsego

...hier ein reg-gehäuse erstellt in dem ein esp8266 und 3x pzem004t module platzfinden. das gehäuse hat eine breite von...

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BTT Octopus V1.1 Casing by RepRapster3d

...connectors, the smaller is 16x5mm for tft rs232 wires. 3x 4mm mounting holes on both sides and 4x 4mm...

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Filament Dryer Shelf by firepower9966

...130mm version can hold 2 x 1kg spools or 3x 0.5kg spools or 1kg and 0.5kg spools. you can...

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Mini fridge by Mewalela

...freezer_box.stl 1x freezer_door.stl 1x fridge_drawer_1.stl 1x fridge_drawer_2.stl 1x freezer_drawer.stl 3x fridge_shelf.stl 2x fridge_freezer_shelf.stl i use zortrax filament z-abs (grey),...

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Prusa I3 Hephestos Ramps 4 Case by thomasdr

...mounting holes in the fan 50x50mm distance. mounting case 3x m3 screws. mounting fan 4x m4 screws / nuts...

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Small PCB CNC V1.2 (Fully Printed Body) by vref

...spacer 20mm https://www.banggood.com/custlink/kmmdi9vljt 4x m3 spacer 15mm https://www.banggood.com/custlink/kmmdi9vljt 4x m3x5mm screw arduino 3d printer controller mks gen-l https://www.banggood.com/custlink/gmdrjph797 display...

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Articulating LED Strip Lamp by Mossball765

...female dc barrel jack 2.1mm x 5.5mm connection wire 3x led strips (10mm x 100mm). i used rgb strips,...

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Planetary Gear 5:1 supersized (not NEMA) by DropBOB_Designs

...with large rotating face wheels. hardware: 5x 608 bearings 3x #8 x 1.5" screws and nuts 1x big screw...

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CR-10S Pro Filamentsensor Adapter by DoSi

...housing. what you need to do this modification: 3x m3x0mm countersunk screws threadcutter m3 some pieces of ptfe tube...

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LED Light Bar Panel by Cheweey

...allows you to loop 3 led strips worth for 3x the light. (link) sethbon's mounting arm calls for the...

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Z stop for Geeetec PRO C by Jack_tha_rat

...original end stop couldn't get to . you need 3x m3 x 12 mm cap-screws and 3 x 3...

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The home of the homeless

...a roof piece, concrete tube and old cable)<br /> 3x concrete piles<br /> 1x door<br /> 1x fence<br />...

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Modified SN04 Z Adjuster for Tevo Tarantula by diddiz

...will need: 1x m3x30 bolt (preferably hex socket) 2x m3x0 bolt 3x m3 nut a spring (the spring from...

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Planetary 4:1 DC motor gearbox by 3Daniel3

...(use support) 1xdeckel.stl 1xsonnenrad2mm/ sonnenrad3mm (raft adhesion is recommended) 2xm3x0mm screw 2xm3...

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Halloween tealight set by End64

...smaller then the ones i used the first time 3x pumpkins 2x souls 2x tombstones 1x...

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K8200 / 3DRAG Central Z-Axis by Snitzelweck92

...werden folgende dinge benötigt: schrauben m4 mit passender mutter 3x kugellager 608 3x spindelmutter 6-kant (sw 17) für tr8-1.5...

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Small Arduino UNO R3 Case with tight fit by swedax94

...https://amzn.to/34x1np5 or elegoo uno r3 https://amzn.to/34awxqk 2x m35 screw 3x m38 screw i used this screw-set https://amzn.to/3ovf49j german: das...

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"The Orbiter CR" 140g direct dual drive Extruder for Creality CR 10 printer types by lorinczroby

...are from the original orbiter design. bill of material: 3x m3 insert m3 nuts 3x m3 10mm bolts 1x...

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FlashForge Creator & Pro Connectors by agilliam

...for above xh connectors 22awg - 28awg digikey #455-1135-2-nd 3x fan connectors at extruder carriage xh 2.5mm 2 pin...

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Portable 3D Printer by JobSmolders

...m3 x20mm 4x m3 x6mm for the z axis: 13x m3 nut 13x m3 x10mm 8x m3 x6mm if...

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Cable Duct / Cable Channel / Mounting Box / Installation Housing / Kabelkanal Brüstungskanal Geräteeinbaudose by sk1303

...is a remix of https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3517496 i just constructed a 3x box and some mounts aditional. i also designed a...

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uBITX Remote Head with 3.5" Nextion Screen by DU2RK

...number of pins (same as in the compact case) 3x 5mm ultr-bright led bulbs, your choice of color for...

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Fume extractor (soldering) with built in lights by csatti

...(min 40mm, depends on filter thickness). 8x m4 washers 3x m3 screws (coarse for plastics) for holding the pcb...

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Dyson Type A Battery

...tester which i got from ebay. additional hardware includes 3x m3 threaded inserts, and 3x m3 x 20~25mm bolts....

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ENDER 3 Modifications - Betrayal at House on the Hill - Organizer (& Baldur's Gate) by Slegnor

...1x book_tray_ender3_2.stl - use the tabs and glue together. 3x token tray (print in the diagonal orientation in the...

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Cheap cure wash (CCW) module V1.0

...screws (m3x10 or 11 also ok) 7x square nuts m3xx2mm 6x disc washers m3 for the door's inges (optional)...

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Sovol Extruder mount filament sensor by Sterling516

...tap to thread. just slowly run the screws in. 3x 4mm x10mm bolts with nuts hold it to the...

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open builds acro laser wiring and enclosure by hilleke

...(2x + 2x mirrored) and the light-proof air grille (3x are printed once. (do not print center.stl) the cable...

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Creality CR-10 or Ender 2 3 Multi Mount with Laser Module plate - Toolholder by digitaljunk

...~12g laser plate: ~9g screws needed: 3x m3x10 1x m3x 5,5mm head width, 2mm head height you have a...

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CreatorBot 3D Modified 8mm Y-Axis Rod Hangers by abavuso

...of y stop has an added hole for at 3x 24mm screw to brace the end stop, modified the...

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i3 PSU cabinet bracket

...mini-jack mountable socket and plug for power panic cable 3x m4x8 flathead screws psu bracket 2x m5 flathead screws...

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Modular Electronics Enclosure by Rconroy

...- m3x10mm screws 1x - m3x25mm screw 2x or 3x - m6 screws for mounting onto your printer frame...

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ENDER 3 Modifications - Betrayal at House on the Hill - Organizer (& Baldur's Gate) by Slegnor

...1x book_tray_ender3_2.stl - use the tabs and glue together. 3x token tray (print in the diagonal orientation in the...

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9mm Double Shear Railcore/Jubilee by HaythamB

...socket head screw (for mounting nema17 to dampener) (4x) m3x0mm socket head screw (for mounting lower assembly to upper...

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Afterburner Ender 3 + Cable Chain + Pinda by KevinAkaSam

...motor housing 3x m3x5mm (to mount the x-motor) 1x m3x0mm (to mount the housing) afterburner please use voron sourcung...

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CR-10S4 3-LED Injection Molded Light Module Holder for 2020 Extrusion by HowardB

...snap-holder portion slightly to accommodate some 12v injection molded 3x 5730 light modules. the modules measure 78mm (l) x...

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Springfield Hellcat (standard picatinny rail) 9mm Side Light Mount by abetterthanyours

...1x m3x12 (i think that a 10 would fit) 3x m3 nut made to fit olight i3t eos but...

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Doll House Dresser by patricknevindwyer

...of the small drawer and small drawer face print 3x of the large drawer and large drawer face print...

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Open Brushless Gimbal (3-axis) by roumen

...absorber ball) the bolts i used are stainless steel: 3x m3 x 20mm hex button head (for the motor...

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Quartz Crystal Case for Vintage Ham Radio by 2E26

...needed hardware: 2x brass pin: 3/32" (0.09375") 3/4" long 3x machine screw: m3 x 9mm or 4-40 x 3/8"...

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Prusa MK3 Mean Well Power Supply (PSU) Upgrade Housing by sneaks

...frame) 4x m3x6mm flat screws(mount bottom to housing) 2x m3x0mm cap screws (mount housing to mk3 frame) 2x m3x10mm...

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CNC control Box by DiscoStuso

...screws and m4 ruthex inserts. the power supply needs 3x m3...

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Foldable all-printed Penplotter/drawbot by Jocorr

...bill of materials; 1x arduino nano 1x expansion board 3x motor 28byj48 3x motor drive uln2003 driver board 1x...

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UART PROFI Shifter housing by ZeroXoreR

...3v3 10-pin connector to monitor the data. there are 3x voltage rails onboard (max 1a) : 5v, 3v3 and...

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Tarmo4 - Extended Gearbox by EntireBug_

...2x 10x15x4mm ball bearings (you should have some left) 3x m4x10 screws if you have a inner runner and...

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OpenRC almost all metal rugged driveline by Steamerzone

...the openrc 4wd truggy using cheap hsp parts. (ebay) 3x hsp 02024 diff complete 2x hsp 02030 drive gear...

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The Duke Board Game Tiles by Tripphippie

...each player. light and dark colors.core game: 1x duke 3x footman 3x pikeman 1x knight 1x wizard 1x ranger...

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Wind Turbine #CatchTheWind. by plaszlonet

...10 mm/26 mm outer (just bought some cheap ones) ->3x 5x60 machine screw and m5 nuts ->13x 5x25 machine...

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Monster Kossel v2 by goeland86

...with a minimum amount of fuss. bill of materials 3x openbuilds 20x40x1000mm v-slot extrusions 3x openbuilds 20x60x1000mm v-slot extrusions...

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1/15th Ton Jack Screw by 3DPRINTINGWORLD

...drive shaft and cap into the housing. install m3 nuts(3x into the traps and bolt the bearing cap into...

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Foldable CNC by wwwektor

...for z axis 3,5m of gt2 6mm tooth belt 3x gt2 20 tooth pulleys 4x 42mmx42mm stepper motors 0,5nm...

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Graveyard Lights with automatic LED Lights

...a circuit with jst connectors for the lights, a 3x aa battery holder, and a light sensor to automatically...

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HEPA filter for "aer" filters by rackley

...works well, real-world tested. the back is flat with 3x m5 holes to secure directly to an enclosure wall....

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Aloy the Machine Hunter by Aircoookie

...aloy model scaled 5x. my print settings: (grey model) 3x model scale (approx. 25cm/10" large) 0.2mm layer height 5%...

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VR to FPV Goggles by FDMBot

...stereoscopic glasses http://www.aliexpress.com/item/hot-sale-head-mounted-3d-virtual-reality-vr-stereoscopic-glasses-for-3-5-6-inch-ios/32603008050.html full page magnifying sheet fresnel lens http://www.ebay.com/itm/xl-full-page-magnifying-sheet-fresnel-lens-3xmagnification-magnifier-fe-/231437162057?hash=item35e2bad649:g:iteaaosw6avuooup ...

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Dice of Crowns - Crown by sablebadger

...upon the winners head. i also printed one at 3x for "table candy" at a board game convention. check...

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Geared Extruder 2 by JobSmolders

...5x m3 x 10mm bolt 6x m3 x20mm bolt 3x m3 x40mm bolt 12x m3 nut 7x m3 washer...

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Ender 3 V-Slot LED-Strip (IKEA LED-Berg) by Kain164

...rollers don´t touch the led´s. you need: 9x v-slot_led-strip_bracket.stl 3x v-slot_wire_guide.stl a set of ikea led-berg led strips soldering...

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We've Been Duped! A-Frame Kit by theadventuredept

...for that construction is as below: 2x - balcony 3x - shingle roof 4x - window 32x - shingle...

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Easy exchange filament extruder by JobSmolders

...0.2mm resolution and a 0.4 nozzle you also need: 3x bearing 608z 1x 11mm driver 1x m8 x 50mm...

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BIG DIY 3D Printer by JobSmolders

...in housing 6x f623zz bearing for timing belt tension-ers 3x timing belts and pulley's 3x stepper nema 17 2x...

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Realistic Female Body - Basic Rig - LOD8192 - 193FBody

...** textural resolution: 8192 x 8192 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Male Body - Basic Rig - LOD8192 - 263MBody

...** textural resolution: 8192 x 8192 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Female Body - Basic Rig - LOD8192 - 171FBody

...** textural resolution: 8192 x 8192 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Human Body - Basic Rig - LOD8192 - 156MBody

...** textural resolution: 8192 x 8192 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Woman Body - Basic Rig - LOD4096 - 171FBody

...** textural resolution: 4096 x 4096 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Man Body - Basic Rig - LOD4096 - 169MBody

...** textural resolution: 4096 x 4096 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Woman Body - Basic Rig - LOD4096 - 193FBody

...** textural resolution: 4096 x 4096 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Human Body - Basic Rig - LOD1024 - 169MBody

...textures ** textural resolution: 1024x 1024 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Human Body - Basic Rig - LOD1024 - 193FBody

...** textural resolution: 1024 x 1024 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Human Body - Basic Rig - LOD1024 - 162MBody

...* textures ** textural resolution: 1024x1024 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Male Body - Basic Rig - LOD1024 - 156MBody

...* textures ** textural resolution: 1024x1024 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Realistic Woman Clothes - No Rig - LOD8192 - 195FBody

...** textural resolution: 1024 x 1024 ** color map 3x ** normal map 3x * rig ** basic mixamo...

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Forgotten Basement - Extended License

...v4 chair poses (2x)<br /> - v4 bed poses (3x<br /> - v4 chain poses (6x)<br /> - chain...

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Forgotten Basement by 3-D-C

...v4 chair poses (2x)<br /> - v4 bed poses (3x<br /> - v4 chain poses (6x)<br /> - chain...

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TEVO Tarantula - Motherboard and LCD boxes by Elzariant

...m3 20mm bolts + 4x m3 nuts 2 or 3x m4 t-nuts + m4 10mm bolts note : lcd...

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fpv (monocle) one eye box googles by shawdreamer

...right?, then the only additional items needed are a 3x magnification fresnel lens or two if wear glasses and...

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Air Filter Purifier Cleaner for 3d Printer Active Carbon HEPA Dust Filtration Health 80mm Fan Affordable No Smell by Maurice94

...mm standard gehäuselüfter, leiser lüfter, case fan filter: alaskaprint 3x patronenfilter patronen filter staubsauger kompatibel mit kärcher wd3 premium...

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Islebound Organizer Insert by EddieCoast

...1x smallcards 1x sailors 1x startsailors 4x players x4 3x resources x3 1x money 1x expansions 1x archive 4x...

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Ender 3 Y conversion to linear rods by stenc55

...place for rods. rods are 2x 450mm fi10 with 3x linear bearings in housing. electronic enclosure is moved to...

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Estes Mini Fat Boy Replica Model Rocket by MakerBoon

...below for build process: print all required parts (note 3x wings are required), can be printed without support. superglue...

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Prusa i3 MK2-X by davtr

...(wxdxh). y-rods are 360mm long. profile lengths: x: 360mm (3x y: 320mm (2x) z: 330mm (2x) linear bearings for...

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Closed Loop Filament Sensor by socke

...https://e3d-online.com/embedded-bowden-couplings-for-metal-1-75mm-filament 2x screw m3x10, din912, with nuts 4x screw m3x0, din912, with nuts one drop of cyanoacrylate glue (ca)...

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DeWalt™ DWE7492 better tilting mechanism by WK_2033

...1x threaded rod m8 (approx 140mm long) 1x screw m3x0 (for 12 teeth gear) 1x nut m3 2x washer...

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Headplay "Sly-Versity" receiver upgrade by earlynerd

...order them longer and cut to length as necessary 3x 6x6x6mm tactile switch. i got mine from this set...

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Tronxy X5SA Pro Afterburner Direct Drive by raabi91

...bracket (m3x30 2x + m3x12 2x). mount the chain (m3x 2x + hexnuts m3 2x) addjust you printer like...

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Modular Profil 3030 System Profils by BuildJustForFun

...re-design screw 9mm, 11mm, 14mm. re-design nutstone 1x, 2x, 3x 4x, 5x, 6x. new nutstone holder. 2017.12.22 update: power...

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Proteus Key Holder by ProteanMan

...too. pla may be too weak for regular use. 3x bolts 3x nuts or knurls (if you don't know...

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NEMA-17 1:4 step-up gearbox for remote direct drive by dalia5

...gear set (only if building the version with bearings): 3x 683zz bearings 3x 8mm m3 bolts, button head preferred...

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Ultimate Anycubic Predator Effector (V6 & 4010 fans) by Superbeasti

...(can be longer) 2x m3 nuts level probe 2x m3x bolts 2x m3 nuts 1x 10x2mm magnet or steel...

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Z-VENT - Comprehensive ventilation upgrade for Zortrax M200 by liftbag

...to be used with z-temp hotend. you need no.2 m3x5mm screws to lock the z-vent and this spacer to...

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Extended Externally Accessible Y Belt Idler with Tensioner by Naonak

...with this one. to use this you will need: 3x 608zz bearings (reuse the 2 that are stock) 1x...

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Arduino temperature Logger with SD card by SRCDcenter

...computer 1x 7-segemnt led display 1x ds18b20 1-wire sensor 3x 5mm standard led's (red, green, yellow) 8x m2 screws...

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Flashforge Creator Pro (FFCP) -> Diamond Hotend Upgrade by ijoebot

...5) a stepper motor for the third extruder. 6) 3x e3d titian extruders 7) diamond hotend (http://www.reprap.me/diamond-hotend.html) you also...